{"id":29696,"date":"2025-08-06T05:30:55","date_gmt":"2025-08-06T09:30:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=29696"},"modified":"2025-08-06T07:58:03","modified_gmt":"2025-08-06T11:58:03","slug":"audio-interview-with-cliff-stankiewicz-and-pete-lents-of-abacab","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/06\/audio-interview-with-cliff-stankiewicz-and-pete-lents-of-abacab\/","title":{"rendered":"Audio: Interview with Cliff Stankiewicz and Pete Lents of ABACAB"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Genesis were giants of progressive rock. Their ambitious and adventurous brand of music won the group a dedicated legion of fans, critical acclaim and lasting influence. But the group was more than a great prog band. Over the course of the group\u2019s history, 1967-2022, with breaks, Genesis went through a number of radical changes, both in personnel and style. Along the way, they sold more than 100 million records worldwide. The band\u2019s catalog is extensive between studio releases, live albums and compilations. And that body of work doesn\u2019t even consider the solo careers of lead singers Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins, nor that of Steve Hackett, Tony Banks, Mike and the Mechanics, and on.<\/p>\n<p>Today, more than half century after Genesis released its debut record, the band\u2019s music still holds an important place. And though Genesis ceased operations, the Charlotte based group ABACAB carries on, bringing the band\u2019s music to 21st century concert audiences. Since 2015, ABACAB, founded by bassist Cliff Stankiewicz, has played regionally and beyond, exploring the vast body of work from the British progressive and pop music giants. Ahead of the band\u2019s July 2025 show here in Asheville NC, I spoke with Cliff and with lead singer Pete Lentz.<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-29696-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ABACAB-QA-FINAL.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ABACAB-QA-FINAL.mp3\">http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/ABACAB-QA-FINAL.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s a transcript:<\/strong><br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-29874\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/abacab_set2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"479\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/abacab_set2.jpg 350w, https:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/abacab_set2-219x300.jpg 219w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/>Tell me about the inspiration, the original inspiration of putting the group together. <\/b><br \/>\n<b>Cliff:<\/b> I was in a Metallica tribute at the time. I don\u2019t know, things just were not going the way I was hoping they were going with that. And so I was sitting home one day and like, okay, well what else is there? And there weren\u2019t any Genesis tributes. Certainly not, certainly not like one like ours. So that was basically the germ of the idea right there. Ten years ago this summer, actually.<br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>The earlier material is fairly complex and challenging. How long did it take for the group to get up to speed? <\/b><br \/>\n<b>Pete:<\/b> A while! When we initially put this all together, I was actually brought to him as the first keyboard player, but I\u2019m a decent keyboard player. But I knew that there was going to be stuff that were going to be tackling that I was just not going to be able to play. I mean, I know my limitations. So we ended up getting somebody else to play keys and I moved out front. I\u2019m much more comfortable being a frontman than I am like playing keyboards in a Genesis tribute.<br \/>\n<b>Cliff: <\/b>You got a band that had two very out there front people, you know, Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins, like two of the greatest of all time. I mean, the band really needed to have that focal point out front.<br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>When people look at Genesis, they think of it as having phases. There\u2019s either two phases or four, depending on how you count. I think there\u2019s four. I mean, there\u2019s the Gabriel era, then there\u2019s the incredible shrinking band era, then there\u2019s the pop era, and then there\u2019s the Ray Wilson era, which nobody remembers. And they even made a point of not mentioning him when they made their documentary&#8230; <\/b><br \/>\n<b>Cliff:<\/b> That\u2019s a shame.<br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>&#8230;Which of those do you focus on and why? <\/b><br \/>\n<b>Pete:<\/b> Personally, I actually do focus on the Gabriel and incredibly shrinking band era, but I really, honestly like it all. I was at the time, I was being raised on <i>Selling England by the Pound<\/i>, and, like, I had to be told, wait, this is the same band? That doesn\u2019t even sound like the same guy. That\u2019s. That\u2019s the \u201cSledgehammer\u201d guy. How is he? When I was coming up, like, they. To me, they weren\u2019t the same band. And then when I started connecting the dots, and then I finally got a hold of albums like <i>Trick of the Tail<\/i> and <i>Wind and Wuthering<\/i>, and then there were three, I started realizing, wait a second: once you hear it all the way through, their discography all the way through, you can see a through line and an evolution of how they changed from the pomp and circumstance English art house concept songs to more bite sized for the masses, pop things.<br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>You don\u2019t go in for the visual theatrics like a band like The Musical Box out of Canada&#8230;<\/b><br \/>\n<b>Pete:<\/b> No, we don\u2019t. And I think that\u2019s really by design, because, you know, from the outset, we already knew we didn\u2019t look like the band. I certainly don\u2019t look like Phil or Peter, you know, and it was like, well, why am I going to get the bat wing helmet for one song? Or why am I going to get the cape for one song? And I don\u2019t want to travel with a wardrobe. So we decided instead to make the whole band an homage to the music. Like that. It\u2019s more, hey, we\u2019re a bunch of regular guys, but we love this stuff and we think that you will, too. We play it from the mindset of a fan. We\u2019re doing our best to replicate this music. We\u2019re not trying to act or be or look like the band.<br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>What\u2019s the biggest challenge in playing this music? <\/b><br \/>\n<b>Pete:<\/b> Practicing!<br \/>\n<b>Cliff:<\/b> Learning it! Yeah, practicing it. I\u2019m going through the songs that we\u2019re doing for the next two shows. Orange Peel and Visual 8 Theater back to back. You know, we\u2019re doing some things we haven\u2019t done in a while. When we all show up to rehearsal, we are pretty solid. You know, everybody\u2019s done their homework and, you know, it comes together really quick.<br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>What\u2019s been the band\u2019s biggest break so far? <\/b><br \/>\n<b>Pete: <\/b>The House of Blues was one that was able to catapult us a little bit. A lot of people saw us there that first time when we played with. With the Rush band. A lot of people saw us that hadn\u2019t seen us before, and we gained a lot of followers from that. But the one that was the. Was the biggest we\u2019ve done was this one in Rochester. Last week, we did a benefit for the Barnard firefighters.<\/p>\n<p><b>What can people expect at this show at the Orange Peel?<\/b><br \/>\n<b>Cliff:<\/b> My business model from the day one was: It\u2019s all going to get represented fairly. I mean, I think we\u2019ve carved out a nice little niche for ourselves. 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