{"id":857,"date":"2012-08-10T05:32:15","date_gmt":"2012-08-10T10:32:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=857"},"modified":"2012-08-10T05:32:15","modified_gmt":"2012-08-10T10:32:15","slug":"zappa-music-in-the-grandmothers-tradition-a-talk-with-napoleon-murphy-brock","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2012\/08\/10\/zappa-music-in-the-grandmothers-tradition-a-talk-with-napoleon-murphy-brock\/","title":{"rendered":"Zappa Music in the Grand(mothers) Tradition: A Talk with Napoleon Murphy Brock"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\"><em>Yesterday I featured my conversation with <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=856\"><strong>Don Preston<\/strong><\/a>, keyboardist with <strong>The Grandmothers<\/strong>, a group that includes several members of <strong>Frank Zappa&#8217;s Mothers<\/strong>. Interspersed into that conversation were a couple of exchanges with <strong>Napoleon Murphy Brock<\/strong> (vocals\/sax\/flute). Here are a few more highlights from that brief exchange. \u2013 bk<\/em><\/font><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>Bill Kopp:<\/strong> The early 70s was a time when artists were pushing boundaries, not worrying about genre labels. I think of the <strong>Nat Adderley<\/strong> album <em>Soul Zodiac<\/em>, with <strong>George Duke<\/strong>, <strong>Mike Deasy<\/strong> and the spoken word stuff. That was jazz, soul, psychedelic, whatever. I think the same could be said for a lot of the stuff Frank did in those days. When you played that music, what did you think of it as being? What kind of music?<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/napoleon_murphy_brock.jpg\" align=\"right\" height=\"370\" vspace=\"10\" width=\"280\" hspace=\"10\" \/><font size=\"2\"><strong>Napoleon Murphy Brock:<\/strong> It&#8217;s theatre. That&#8217;s what we called it: total music theatre. And if musicians who are playing it \u2013 even if they&#8217;re playing all the right notes \u2013 they&#8217;re playing it incorrectly. It&#8217;s not just notes; there&#8217;s choreography involved; there are a lot of things involved that make up this music, to make it what it is. It&#8217;s closer to being a musical comedy on Broadway than anything else you could think of. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>BK:<\/strong> Do you use those spontaneous \u201ccues\u201d in the arrangements like Frank often did, to change things up in real time?<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>NMB:<\/strong> The other component about Frank&#8217;s music is that there&#8217;s rigidity and discipline, but there&#8217;s also improvisation. There&#8217;s looseness, but it&#8217;s a disciplined looseness. There are spaces where you can do something you didn&#8217;t do the night before, but it all has to be confined within the boundaries of musical theatre. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>BK: <\/strong>The people who come to the shows: are they 100% Zappa fans, or so some curious people wander in not knowing what they&#8217;re going to get?<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>NMB:<\/strong> Some of them are loyal Zappa fans. And some come because they have heard that these are the actual people who played on the records thirty-some years ago. They come to see what happens now, and to see if we can still play it as well.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\">No lip-syncing is allowed in Zappa music. Everything is played live, at the moment. Our intention is to make the music that we recorded with Frank sound better than the record.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\">Had you ever seen a Zappa show, with Frank?<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>BK:<\/strong> Yes, twice. Fall 1981 and, I think &#8217;84. <\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/zappa_roxy_elsewhere.jpg\" align=\"left\" height=\"280\" vspace=\"10\" width=\"280\" hspace=\"10\" \/><font size=\"2\"><strong>NMB:<\/strong> So you never got to see the Mothers of Invention.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><strong>BK:<\/strong><\/font><font color=\"#0000ff\"> I&#8217;m only 48. I was <\/font><font color=\"#0000ff\"><em>eleven<\/em><\/font><font color=\"#0000ff\"> when they broke up<\/font>.<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>NMB:<\/strong> Well, if you\u2019ve got the CD of <em>Roxy &amp; Elsewhere<\/em>&#8230;<\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>BK:<\/strong> I have it on vinyl.<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font size=\"2\"><strong>NMB:<\/strong> Listen to it before you come to the show. Sit down, and don&#8217;t talk or do anything else. Listen to the entire <em>Roxy &amp; Elsewhere<\/em> album, and then come to the show. I guarantee you a vicarious experience. That&#8217;s how close to the original \u2013 but even better \u2013 we get. Because it&#8217;s live. <\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-bottom: 0in\"><font color=\"#0000ff\"><font size=\"2\"><em>The Grandmothers will be at Asheville NC&#8217;s Grey Eagle on Saturday August 11. \u2013 bk<\/em><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday I featured my conversation with Don Preston, keyboardist with The Grandmothers, a group that includes several members of Frank Zappa&#8217;s Mothers. 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