{"id":7659,"date":"2015-04-24T03:00:24","date_gmt":"2015-04-24T07:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=7659"},"modified":"2015-04-24T03:00:24","modified_gmt":"2015-04-24T07:00:24","slug":"sometimes-people-remember-a-conversation-with-steve-barton-of-translator-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2015\/04\/24\/sometimes-people-remember-a-conversation-with-steve-barton-of-translator-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Sometimes People Remember: A Conversation with Translator&#8217;s Steve Barton (Part 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Continued from <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=7657\">Part One<\/a>&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/translator02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"374\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"20\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you&#8217;re working with a producer like <strong>David Kahne<\/strong> or <strong>Ed Stasium<\/strong>, they care about the process, too,\u201d <strong>Steve Barton<\/strong> notes. \u201cEveryone has an interest in how the final record is going to sound. So it&#8217;s all of a piece: the punkier stuff on the demos, and how the records ended up sounding.\u201d There are any number of approaches a band can take in the studio. One is to attempt to capture a performance that more or less captures and documents the group&#8217;s live song. Another is to employ a studio-as-instrument philosophy, crafting a work as you go along. Barton believes <strong>Translator<\/strong> did both. \u201cOn the first album, <em>Heartbeats and Triggers<\/em>, we were trying to capture ourselves live, but then we would do a few little [studio] touches here and there. On the second album [1983&#8217;s <em>No Time Like Now<\/em>], we purposely wanted it to be more &#8216;produced.&#8217;\u201d Barton says that the group liked some of the \u201cproduction qualities\u201d found on classic albums by the <strong>Beatles<\/strong>, the <strong>Rolling Stones<\/strong>, and <strong>The Kinks<\/strong>. They modeled their approach on those records. \u201cIf we could have afforded it,\u201d he laughs, \u201cwe probably would have put flutes and strings on some of the songs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Barton continues a chronology of Translator&#8217;s albums and the aesthetic mindset for each. \u201cWith the third album [1985&#8217;s self-titled release], we wanted to do something a bit more stripped-down. And then with the fourth album, we again wanted to capture ourselves live.\u201d In fact, the original idea for <em>Evening of the Harvest<\/em> was to record the songs live in the studio. \u201cI like all of the albums, \u201cBarton says, \u201cand we never wanted to make them all sound the same, anyway.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Shortly after the release of their second album, Translator issued a three-song 12\u201d EP called <em>Break Down Barriers<\/em>. That disc featured a cover of a very early Beatles song \u2013 in fact, the only composition credited to <strong>George Harrison<\/strong> and <strong>John Lennon<\/strong> \u2013 called \u201cCry for a Shadow.\u201d In 1983 the <em>Beatles Anthology<\/em> project remained off in the distant future, so the song was little known outside the cadre of Beatles fanatics. Barton was just such a fanatic. \u201cWe were a trio in L.A.,\u201d he recalls. \u201cand a friend of ours was getting married. We were going to play at her wedding. And another band was going to play there as well. The guitar player in that band was <strong>Bob Darlington<\/strong>, who later would be my Translator brother.\u201d At one point, the groups decided that they should play something together. \u201cI don&#8217;t know how we ever came up with &#8216;Cry for a Shadow,&#8217; but obviously it was on all of our radars.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"float: left; padding: 10px; width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=ss_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=musoscribe-20&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=B00T9NHA66&amp;asins=B00T9NHA66&amp;linkId=XIOGC65ROKW5UYOK&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Barton had grown up with the song. \u201cAs a little kid, I remember calling a radio station in Los Angeles.\u201d Affecting a child&#8217;s voice, Barton continues. \u201c&#8217;Hi! Can you play The Beatles&#8217; \u201cCry for a Shadow\u201d?&#8217; I don&#8217;t know how they did it, but [the deejay] hung up the phone, and the song started. So the song came naturally to us, especially with the two guitar parts.\u201d And once the group became a four-piece, the song was part of their set.<\/p>\n<p>But Translator has always been mostly about original songs. Though guitarists Barton and Darlington both compose prolifically for their band, they only rarely write together. Yet Barton insists that there was never a sense of competition between the two songwriters. \u201cIf there <em>is<\/em> any competition,\u201d Barton says, \u201cit&#8217;s healthy. Especially for the third and fourth albums, we had this spurt of songwriting. I had a little room in my flat in San Francisco where we&#8217;d write. Bob would come over, and he&#8217;s say, &#8216;Look, I have these four songs.&#8217; And they&#8217;d be really good. So I&#8217;d say, &#8216;Oh, I&#8217;d better write some more, too.&#8217; We kind of sparked off of each other.\u201d He says that \u201cthe handful of songs that we wrote together came out of jams.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><center><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/translator03.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"425\" height=\"287\" vspace=\"20\" \/><\/center>Barton is initially lost for words when asked to characterize the differences between his songwriting and that of Robert Darlington. After considering the question, he says, \u201cI know that when Bob first came to the band, one of the songs he brought to our set was &#8216;Pablo Picasso&#8217; [by <strong>The Modern Lovers<\/strong>]. And he knew all of the <strong>John Cale<\/strong> stuff; <em>Paris 1919<\/em>&#8230;he turned us on to all of that. I had mostly known Cale as part of the <strong>Velvet Underground<\/strong>.\u201d That music informed Darlington&#8217;s songwriting, Barton says. \u201cBob has always been willing to really embrace the idea\u201d of just using a couple of chords in a song. \u201cI tend to write like, here&#8217;s a verse, chorus, and bridge. So I think we have unique styles that really complement each other.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That contrast between Barton&#8217;s music and that of his fellow guitarist was placed in stark terms via a production choice the band made for <em>Evening of the Harvest<\/em>. Barton&#8217;s guitar parts on the record are all hard-panned in one stereo channel, while Darlington&#8217;s guitar is panned to the other. For his part, today Barton doesn&#8217;t remember why the band and producer Ed Stasium did that, but he thinks he might have been influenced by <strong>Neil Young and Crazy Horse<\/strong> employing that approach on one of their records.<\/p>\n<p>All four of the group&#8217;s 1980s albums have in fact been reissued in the 21<sup>st<\/sup> century. \u201cAbout eight years ago, maybe,\u201d Barton says. But those Wounded Bird reissues were widely criticized for their subpar sonic quality. Diplomatically allowing some level of dissatisfaction with the quality of those CD reissues, Barton says, \u201cThat&#8217;s something I&#8217;d like to revisit, eventually.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, <em>Sometimes People Forget<\/em> is a worthy addition to Translator&#8217;s recorded legacy. A number of bands that rose to fame in the 1980s have seen retrospective releases of their material on Omnivore Recordings: <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=3486\"><strong>Jellyfish<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?tag=game-theory\"><strong>Game Theory<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=6357\"><strong>The Posies<\/strong><\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=7426\"><strong>Trip Shakespeare<\/strong><\/a> are only four of many. \u201cI&#8217;d love for <em>Sometimes People Forget<\/em> to be the beginning of a relationship with Omnivore,\u201d Barton says. \u201cWe&#8217;ll see how it goes.\u201d Translator are doing a number of shows in May to promote the release \u2013 dates in Los Angeles, Long Beach, and, of course, San Francisco \u2013 and post updates on their site, <a href=\"http:\/\/translatormusic.com\/\">translatormusic.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/the_musoscribe\">Follow \u201cthe_musoscribe\u201d on <\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/the_musoscribe\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/icon_twitter_small.jpg\" alt=\"\" name=\"graphics3\" width=\"18\" height=\"18\" align=\"BOTTOM\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"1\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/the_musoscribe\"> Twitter<\/a> and get notified<br \/>\nwhen new features, reviews and essays are published.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continued from Part One&#8230; \u201cWhen you&#8217;re working with a producer like David Kahne or Ed Stasium, they care about the process, too,\u201d Steve Barton notes. \u201cEveryone has an interest in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[19,41,49,50,62],"tags":[1622,2043,2261],"class_list":["post-7659","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-compilation","category-interview","category-new-release","category-new-wave","category-rawk","tag-omnivore-recordings","tag-steve-barton","tag-translator","cat-19-id","cat-41-id","cat-49-id","cat-50-id","cat-62-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7659","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7659"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7659\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7659"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7659"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7659"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}