{"id":3489,"date":"2013-01-08T08:37:16","date_gmt":"2013-01-08T13:37:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=3489"},"modified":"2013-01-08T08:37:16","modified_gmt":"2013-01-08T13:37:16","slug":"im-in-the-fan-club-a-conversation-with-jellyfishs-roger-manning-part-two","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2013\/01\/08\/im-in-the-fan-club-a-conversation-with-jellyfishs-roger-manning-part-two\/","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019m in the Fan Club: A Conversation with Jellyfish\u2019s Roger Manning, Part Two"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Continued from <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=3486\">Part One<\/a>&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/jellyfish_stackatracks.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"280\" hspace=\"20\" vspace=\"20\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Bill Kopp:<\/strong> I remember one of those live-in-the-studio sessions you did back around the time of the second album. It was for 99X, a radio station in Atlanta (WNNX-FM). The thing I remember most from the interview part of that session \u2013 and I don&#8217;t know if it was you or not who was responding \u2013 but the DJ made the point of comparing Jellyfish&#8217;s sound to <strong>Queen<\/strong>. Whoever it was, he didn&#8217;t appreciate the comparison. But while Jellyfish always sounded modern, there was a clear, shall-we-say, <em>classicist<\/em> bent to the music, especially the arrangements. So if not Queen \u2013 and I&#8217;d agree with you there \u2013 what sort of aesthetic were you aiming for with the band?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Roger Manning:<\/strong> Well, thank you for your kind words and the way you put it. You pretty much nailed it: for us, the biggest priority was, no matter what we did, we did something that gave us a chance to be adventurous and bold. And respectful of artists past, one s who had various influences on us. The main thing <em>was<\/em> to create something that had a classicist feel to it. In a nutshell, we were operating on a tradition of rock\/pop history, and putting our own stamp on it. That&#8217;s all we ever wanted to do. And Queen was as much a part of what influenced us, inspired us in that direction, as anybody. Certainly, vocally. People don&#8217;t realize that there were groups like <strong>The Carpenters<\/strong>, <strong>Fleetwood Mac<\/strong> and <strong>10cc<\/strong> who were very, very strong vocal influences on us.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>BK<\/strong>: When the first album came out \u2013 and even more so when <em>Spilt Milk<\/em> was released \u2013 I evangelized about Jellyfish to any of my friends who would listen. But the band never really broke through with the massive success I thought it deserved. I even thought the <em>timing<\/em> was right. You had it all: the music, the lyrics, the arrangements, <em>and<\/em> a distinctive visual style, so important by that period. So why do you think the band never truly broke through in a bigger way?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"float: right; padding: 10px; width:120px;height:240px;\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&#038;OneJS=1&#038;Operation=GetAdHtml&#038;MarketPlace=US&#038;source=ss&#038;ref=ss_til&#038;ad_type=product_link&#038;tracking_id=musoscribe-20&#038;marketplace=amazon&#038;region=US&#038;placement=B00B3HJMHQ&#038;asins=B00B3HJMHQ&#038;linkId=YAPBSXSOR7PIGJ5I&#038;show_border=true&#038;link_opens_in_new_window=true\"><br \/>\n<\/iframe> <\/p>\n<p><strong>RM:<em> <\/em><\/strong>Although I agree with you that we possessed a little bit of each of those qualities, at the end of the day, I think we were just too damn intellectual. Even though we were writing three-and-a-half-minute, simple, hooky pop, we were still operating in a tradition that had [already] its heyday, if you will. The production approach that we were using was present with everybody from <strong>Steely Dan<\/strong> to&#8230;even <strong>Cheap Trick<\/strong> was more intellectual than rock bands that were happening in the early 90s.<\/p>\n<p>When our first album came out, \u201cSunset Strip metal\u201d was coming to a crashing halt because <strong>Nirvana<\/strong> was coming through. Grunge was about to dominate the airwaves. And of course grunge was another sort of post-punk statement. It was very rooted in punk and in classic hard rock, and there&#8217;s nothing intellectual about any of that stuff. Some [of those] bands did some wonderful things&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, we attracted people, and people \u201cgot\u201d it, but on the bell curve of middle America, frankly it was like a foreign language coming into a lot of ears. I remember that right during <em>Spilt Milk<\/em>, the second <strong>Pearl Jam<\/strong> album came out. And I was just scratching my head: \u201cWow. I&#8217;m in the same age group as all of these people, and for the most part the bands too, and I don&#8217;t understand what the appeal is.\u201d That&#8217;s not a slight to Pearl Jam. It&#8217;s just a comment on me, and where my head space was. I was like, \u201cThis is just not meeting my needs.\u201d <em>Clearly<\/em> it was meeting the needs of a whole lot of other people!<\/p>\n<p>You could analyze it for days. I think that though the melodies we offered were catchy and singable and so forth, it was still not as&#8230;it would have been the equivalent of, say, all of those great <strong>Dionne Warwick<\/strong> <strong>Burt Bacharach<\/strong>\/<strong>Hal David<\/strong> songs, if all of those songs came out the late 80s. Or the early 90s or something. Or even in the last decade now. It&#8217;s like, \u201cWow. Fuckin&#8217; masterpieces!\u201d and the general public says, \u201cI don&#8217;t care!\u201d It&#8217;s irrelevant to the cultural climate [of a given time period].<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Jellyfish&#8217;s 2CD <\/em>Stack-a-Tracks<em> is out now on Omnivore Recordings.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/the_musoscribe\">Follow \u201cthe_musoscribe\u201d on <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/musoscribe.com\/images\/icon_twitter_small.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"18\" height=\"18\" border=\"0\" hspace=\"1\" vspace=\"0\" \/> Twitter<\/a> and get notified<br \/>\nwhen new features, reviews and essays are published.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continued from Part One&#8230; Bill Kopp: I remember one of those live-in-the-studio sessions you did back around the time of the second album. 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