{"id":19567,"date":"2020-10-04T05:30:19","date_gmt":"2020-10-04T09:30:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=19567"},"modified":"2022-09-20T08:47:36","modified_gmt":"2022-09-20T12:47:36","slug":"he-wrote-that-song-too-a-conversation-with-steve-dorff-part-two","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2020\/10\/04\/he-wrote-that-song-too-a-conversation-with-steve-dorff-part-two\/","title":{"rendered":"He Wrote That Song, Too: A Conversation with Steve Dorff (Part Two)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>Continued from <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2020\/10\/03\/he-wrote-that-song-too-a-conversation-with-steve-dorff-part-one\/\">Part One<\/a>&#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3465a4;\"><b>Bill Kopp:<\/b> Writing for film and television has very strict rules of its own, having to do with song length and a lot of other things. Is composing within those kind of constraints more difficult, or is it a case of, \u201cHey, I enjoy the challenge,\u201d kind of like doing a crossword puzzle? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Steve Dorff:<\/b> I really do, and I\u2019ve spoken to that a lot. I\u2019ve always operated well under deadlines and the pressure of a deadline. Budget being one [challenge], and time constraints are a big one. Because usually when you get hired to do a movie, it\u2019s at the very end of the process. It\u2019s the last thing to go in before they mix the film, mix the sound. And then it\u2019s like, \u201cWe need this yesterday.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And in the case of a couple of projects that I\u2019ve done where I\u2019ve replaced other songs or other composers that they haven\u2019t been happy with, then it becomes a <i>real<\/i><i>ly<\/i> tight window. And I\u2019ve always thrived on that. That doesn\u2019t ever bother me. I\u2019ve been blessed to be able to come through on a bunch of those. But it is a different scenario than just sitting down and writing: \u201cHey, I\u2019m going to write a love song today.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-19570\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/steve_dorff_shof.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"532\" srcset=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/steve_dorff_shof.jpg 550w, http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/steve_dorff_shof-300x290.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3465a4;\">I imagine that there are times when you\u2019re told, \u201cWe need something, and it needs to be exactly two minutes and eleven seconds long, and it has to resolve itself in that spot.\u201d I would think that, for some people, that would be an off-putting thing, but other people would rub their hands together and say, \u201cOoh, that sounds like fun.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Well, in scoring, when you\u2019re scoring a picture and underscoring a scene that is two minutes and eleven seconds long, you know how long it is before it resolves itself into the next shot or the next scene, and when the music has to come out. So you do have to craft it to a certain period of time. It\u2019s not so much with songs in films; usually, you know how much time you have, either at the beginning of a movie, or at the end of a movie. There have been songs where, within the film, that they tell you, \u201cYou\u2019ve got about a minute and a half.\u201d But they\u2019ll usually \u2013 in a lot of cases \u2013 edit the film to go around the song.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3465a4;\">Tell me about the character and approach of your live show. I\u2019m curious if it\u2019s a challenge to strike the right balance between talking about the songs and playing them, or if that\u2019s something that comes naturally to you.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>You know, I was a studio rat my entire career. I realized early on that for me it was all about creating the music, and being behind the scenes, and being in the studio, and arranging and producing. So the artist thing never really was important to me.<\/p>\n<p>When I was inducted [into the Songwriters Hall of Fame [in 2018], two things happened. I was playing a small performance and a woman came up to me and said, \u201cYou know, you don\u2019t sing very well, but your stories are amazing. You should write a book.\u201d And I said, \u201cWrite a book? I have enough trouble writing a four-minute song!\u201d I had no aspirations to write a book. And it turns out she was a literary agent. She said, \u201cIf I get you a book deal, will you write the book?\u201d I thought nothing of it and I said, \u201cSure. Yeah, yeah. Right.\u201d And three months later she called and said, \u201cYou better start writing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So out of the book and in the realization that people like are this \u201cOz behind the curtain,\u201d the anonymous person who writes the soundtracks of people\u2019s lives, and they have no idea who we are \u2026 that became the show. So what I do is talk about the journeys that all these songs have, and the fine line between disaster and success. And then I play the songs. People know the songs, but it\u2019s fascinating: by the time my 90-minute show is over, I think people appreciate and finally finally realize that there are songwriters who write these things for the people that make them famous. Kenny Rogers and Barbra Streisand and Celine Dion \u2026 they\u2019re the face of the songs, but in a lot of cases, they haven\u2019t created them. Now without them, these songs would never have become hits. So, it\u2019s a marriage. It\u2019s a marriage of a great song and a great artist.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #3465a4;\">NOTE, OCTOBER 2020: During our conversation in mid-February, Steve Dorff also spoke about <i>Pure Country the Musical<\/i>. That show had rehearsals scheduled for March 20, and a premiere scheduled for April 16 at Houston\u2019s Theater Under the Stars. Needless to say, the Covid-19 pandemic put a stop to that as well as the run of live solo shows Dorff had scheduled. <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continued from Part One&#8230; Bill Kopp: Writing for film and television has very strict rules of its own, having to do with song length and a lot of other things. 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