{"id":12637,"date":"2017-05-02T05:30:03","date_gmt":"2017-05-02T09:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/?p=12637"},"modified":"2017-05-03T07:39:52","modified_gmt":"2017-05-03T11:39:52","slug":"the-beth-hart-interview-if-we-have-a-bad-show-no-ones-going-to-die-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2017\/05\/02\/the-beth-hart-interview-if-we-have-a-bad-show-no-ones-going-to-die-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"The Beth Hart Interview, Part 1: &#8220;If we have a bad show, no one&#8217;s going to die.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>Beth Hart<\/b> is one of the most popular vocalist-songwriters working in the blues idiom today. But she doesn&#8217;t confine her work to one genre. Her latest album, <i>Fire on the Floor<\/i> is all over the place stylistically, and that&#8217;s meant in the best possible way. I interviewed Hart for a story that was scheduled to run in the pages of an altweekly ahead of her tour date in that paper&#8217;s city. But between the time the interview was done and my deadline, something changed on her gig itinerary, and the relevant date was no more; that meant the story didn&#8217;t run in print. So instead I happily present the entire conversation here on <i>Musoscribe<\/i>. \u2013 bk<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><b>Bill Kopp:<\/b> You&#8217;ve worked and collaborated with a lot of top notch artists over the years. For <i>Fire On The Floor<\/i> you worked with <b>Waddy Wachtel<\/b>, <b>Ivan Neville<\/b> and <b>Rick Marotta<\/b> among others. How did their involvement color the overall character of the album?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Beth Hart:<\/b> Well, we only worked with them for three days; we made the record in three days. And it all came from <b>Oliver Leiber<\/b> who knew all of them; I didn&#8217;t know any of them. He asked them to come in on the record.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12644\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/beth_hart1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"334\" srcset=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/beth_hart1.jpg 500w, http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/beth_hart1-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>So what I do when I write is \u2026 I just make a recording of me at the piano or guitar \u2013 or whatever instrument I wrote it on \u2013 and then Oliver plays it for the band so they know it to go into the studio. Same thing when I made records with <b>Kevin Shirley<\/b> and the band: he puts it together. When you get people who are really, really great, of course you don&#8217;t have to take it through 50 times; we just get together and we all play it live two or three times, and then we move on.<\/p>\n<p>A few of the songs we had to play through more than a couple times, but we got it all done in three day. It was really easy \u2013 really lovely people \u2013 and I was <i>so<\/i>, so lucky to have Oliver, because he knows everybody. So each time he makes a record he can fit together different guys who he thinks will be right for whatever project he&#8217;s working on.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Did you, at least initially, track the songs live in the studio?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Yes, yes. Everything, vocal and instruments live. It just seems that&#8217;s the only way to do it. Otherwise I find \u2013 and I&#8217;m not saying this about other people that do it \u2013 but in my experience, whenever I&#8217;ve tried to layer and take a year to get a drum sound and all that other bullshit, is that I find that for the type of music that I do and have done, it&#8217;s so unnecessary. And it ends up getting in the way; it ends up making [the finished product] very over-produced. I think any artist \u2013 whether they&#8217;re considered a strong artist or a weak artist \u2013 no matter what people say about them, I think any time you get to layer you start kind of questioning yourself and re-thinking about things, you get into your ego.Whereas I find that if it&#8217;s live and together, you don&#8217;t have a chance to question it; it is what it is, and you move on. I love that.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">There&#8217;s also something special I think about looking across the room \u2013 even if you&#8217;ve got baffles and such \u2013 and seeing the other people playing the stuff in real time. There&#8217;s a certain ineffable quality about that. You can make some great recordings if you do it piece by piece, but there is something organic about doing it all together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Yes; you can capture that human quality much more than that perfect cheerleader quality, which is so boring.<\/p>\n<p>I love how you can feel and hear some vocal or instrumentation mistakes. If you listen to \u201cThe Woman You&#8217;ve Been Dreaming Of,\u201d if you notice, going into the second chorus you can hear the drums and the different instruments \u2026 you kind of don&#8217;t know exactly how they&#8217;re going to get into it, and you can hear it this really awesome thing that happens; it&#8217;s human and cool.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Many of your albums have featured a song \u2013 sometimes more than one song \u2013 that got additional exposure through use on film or television. How important do you think that those cross-over uses of your music are as far as helping your career?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Do you mean like when the label or a publisher gets your shit placed with a TV show or something?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Yeah &#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The funny thing about that is \u2026 I think it becomes a thing where people say, \u201cOh, did you know this is being played?\u201d So it becomes more like a pump-up thing, I think, more than anything else. But it definitely can be helpful for creating a little bit of a buzz. In terms of making it a massive [hit] or anything like that, I don&#8217;t know about that. But in terms of just creating another thing for people to talk about, that can be very cool.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">So it&#8217;s not something that you really pursue actively?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Oh, no. I don\u2019t know if I pursue <i>anything<\/i>, I mean. I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve got such great people around me: they all have their own niche of what they think we need to do or whatever needs to be done. My job is really simple, I just write.<\/p>\n<p>And even in the studio \u2013 I swear to God; you could ask Oliver \u2013 when we tape a take, I never go into the studio and listen to what I did. I have total trust for the producer I&#8217;m working with, so I trust that if they think I did a good one, great. If they think we need another one, they&#8217;ll come out when I&#8217;m having my smoke and say, \u201cWe need to go back in and take it again.\u201d So I don&#8217;t get involved with all that.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m really funny about who I&#8217;m going to have produce. I kind of have a sit-down, and we really talk about what I like, what I don&#8217;t like. And then I get to check them out, their history of what <i>they<\/i> like. And then I can play them songs, and I can see what their reaction is to the song, which songs they gravitate to more than others. And then I see if he \u201cbecomes my boyfriend\u201d or not, you know what I mean? Those are the things that turn me on and turn me off, yes.<\/p>\n<p>And then once I do, I&#8217;m out of it. The only time I get back involved pretty heavily is during mixing time. That is, to me, do or die; you can ruin a song that way, or you can make a song even better. Those are the only times; otherwise I&#8217;m out. I just sit back and relax.<\/p>\n<p>And then in terms of career stuff, I just do promo, which sometimes I like. Most of the time it makes me nervous, because it brings up a lot of stuff from the past. So I can get pretty bummed out.<\/p>\n<p>But otherwise, I just get to have fun on the road with my band. I don&#8217;t take it seriously; we don&#8217;t have a show planned that we do every night. It&#8217;s just a different show, basically, every night. There are a few songs we have that we&#8217;ll repeat sometimes, but usually we just mix things up. They have to know at least 65 songs, and sometimes I&#8217;ll have them learn something.<\/p>\n<p>And that way we keep it light and never take ourselves too seriously. I always tell this to the guys: \u201cWe&#8217;re not doing heart surgery, we&#8217;re not doing brain surgery, we&#8217;re just making music. If we have a bad show, no one&#8217;s going to die.&#8221; It&#8217;s all about being humble and just having fun and mixing it up and keeping it fresh&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><i><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.musoscribe.com\/index.php\/2017\/05\/03\/the-beth-hart-interview-part-2-its-just-about-being-fuckin-honest-and-real\/\">Click here to continue<\/a>&#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Beth Hart is one of the most popular vocalist-songwriters working in the blues idiom today. But she doesn&#8217;t confine her work to one genre. 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